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		<title>By: larks</title>
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		<dc:creator>larks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop being a whiny bitch, get a life, and go outside you limey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop being a whiny bitch, get a life, and go outside you limey.</p>
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		<title>By: G.L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with about 80% of these points you posted. 

This is one of the few films I&#039;ve encountered where I had to suspend my disbelief simply way too far.

It seems the writers thought they could get away with cramming in memorable scenes, thoughtprovoking lines and &#039;cool&#039; events without considering time, coincedence and logicality.

One of the many glaring incongruities that pulled me out of the movie was that &lt;b&gt;everything&lt;/b&gt; was carried out by the Joker as if he had travelled into the future to see how he should pull off all of his plans:

e.g:
- Lining up a bus with other buses that happen to have one space long enough for an extra bus, &lt;b&gt;seconds&lt;/b&gt; before the police arrive - without the other bus drivers seemingly caring;
- Knowing that Batman 1) would take over a police investigation, 2) would concentrate on a bullet, 3) possessed the techniques to find fingerprints on the fragments from that bullet, 4) would choose the right suspect out of four possible ones and 5) be at the exact time in the apartment that was on the suspect&#039;s name.
- Situations that the original poster already pointed out, especially nr. 15 and 16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with about 80% of these points you posted. </p>
<p>This is one of the few films I&#8217;ve encountered where I had to suspend my disbelief simply way too far.</p>
<p>It seems the writers thought they could get away with cramming in memorable scenes, thoughtprovoking lines and &#8216;cool&#8217; events without considering time, coincedence and logicality.</p>
<p>One of the many glaring incongruities that pulled me out of the movie was that <b>everything</b> was carried out by the Joker as if he had travelled into the future to see how he should pull off all of his plans:</p>
<p>e.g:<br />
- Lining up a bus with other buses that happen to have one space long enough for an extra bus, <b>seconds</b> before the police arrive &#8211; without the other bus drivers seemingly caring;<br />
- Knowing that Batman 1) would take over a police investigation, 2) would concentrate on a bullet, 3) possessed the techniques to find fingerprints on the fragments from that bullet, 4) would choose the right suspect out of four possible ones and 5) be at the exact time in the apartment that was on the suspect&#8217;s name.<br />
- Situations that the original poster already pointed out, especially nr. 15 and 16.</p>
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		<title>By: Robson Waterkemper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robson Waterkemper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
32. Dent and Maroni crash

Dent has Maroni trapped in his car, and instead of shooting Maroni, he kills the driver of the car, causing huge crash?! Half of Dent’s face is melted off and he must be in serious pain, yet he decides the best way to further his goal is to cause a car crash in which he could conceivably be killed?!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dent went into Maroni car to squeeze him for information about the corrupt cops who gave him and Rachel to Joker. He says that spilling this info out will increase his odds to survive. When Maroni says what Dents wants to hear, Dent tosses the coin, making the odds for survival of Maroni be 50/50. Maroni gets lucky and the not scarred side falls up. Dent can shoot Maroni directly now. So he tosses another coin for the drivers luck. The scarred side comes up, and he shoots the driver. You can clearly see Dent putting his safety belt in this moment. Actually this was a very interesting scene.

About your points. I agree with most of them, but I also think one has to have a certain suspension of disbelief to appreciate a movie. Almost all movies have incredible coincidences who makes the story go.

There are some points though, that I completely agree with you, namely the the time between the death of Rachel, and Two-Face trying to kill Gordon&#039;s son.</description>
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32. Dent and Maroni crash</p>
<p>Dent has Maroni trapped in his car, and instead of shooting Maroni, he kills the driver of the car, causing huge crash?! Half of Dent’s face is melted off and he must be in serious pain, yet he decides the best way to further his goal is to cause a car crash in which he could conceivably be killed?!
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<p>Dent went into Maroni car to squeeze him for information about the corrupt cops who gave him and Rachel to Joker. He says that spilling this info out will increase his odds to survive. When Maroni says what Dents wants to hear, Dent tosses the coin, making the odds for survival of Maroni be 50/50. Maroni gets lucky and the not scarred side falls up. Dent can shoot Maroni directly now. So he tosses another coin for the drivers luck. The scarred side comes up, and he shoots the driver. You can clearly see Dent putting his safety belt in this moment. Actually this was a very interesting scene.</p>
<p>About your points. I agree with most of them, but I also think one has to have a certain suspension of disbelief to appreciate a movie. Almost all movies have incredible coincidences who makes the story go.</p>
<p>There are some points though, that I completely agree with you, namely the the time between the death of Rachel, and Two-Face trying to kill Gordon&#8217;s son.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Soto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Soto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lol&#039;d.

I love the Joker contradictions as if the author forgot how deep the Mob was corrupting MCU... And how Deep Joker had gotten into the Entire mob sydnicate in Gotham, thus having Numerous connections NUMEROUS.

But enough bashing.

Why So serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lol&#8217;d.</p>
<p>I love the Joker contradictions as if the author forgot how deep the Mob was corrupting MCU&#8230; And how Deep Joker had gotten into the Entire mob sydnicate in Gotham, thus having Numerous connections NUMEROUS.</p>
<p>But enough bashing.</p>
<p>Why So serious?</p>
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		<title>By: seruzz2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>seruzz2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I created this blog for my friends enjoyment only and the first post I decided to post was this one which I copy-pasted from IMDb. Its a rather interesting and funny article for my friends to enjoy only yet somehow  the link got out to others and this charade of flaming began. If its not killing me, I gain from having so many visitors for this single article only rite? So, its a win-win situation for me where I get to entertain my friends and gain views from other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I created this blog for my friends enjoyment only and the first post I decided to post was this one which I copy-pasted from IMDb. Its a rather interesting and funny article for my friends to enjoy only yet somehow  the link got out to others and this charade of flaming began. If its not killing me, I gain from having so many visitors for this single article only rite? So, its a win-win situation for me where I get to entertain my friends and gain views from other people.</p>
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		<title>By: hello</title>
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		<dc:creator>hello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...like this hasn&#039;t been done before. a nobody bashes something everyone likes in order to gain attention on the internet. congrats to you my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;like this hasn&#8217;t been done before. a nobody bashes something everyone likes in order to gain attention on the internet. congrats to you my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: seruzz2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>seruzz2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats with the rumours that the sequel&#039;s being titled The Dark Knight Returns? It&#039;s too similar to the second movie. If Nolan&#039;s returning, I predict that he would not reference anything related to Batman at all this time (no more words like Knights anymore!). Artistically, it would be great to actually have a comic book movie with a title having no reference to the source material. Commercially, the studio would go bonkers unless they are willing to shell out more moolah for the marketing (which they will gladly obliged now due to the huge success of The Dark Knight).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats with the rumours that the sequel&#8217;s being titled The Dark Knight Returns? It&#8217;s too similar to the second movie. If Nolan&#8217;s returning, I predict that he would not reference anything related to Batman at all this time (no more words like Knights anymore!). Artistically, it would be great to actually have a comic book movie with a title having no reference to the source material. Commercially, the studio would go bonkers unless they are willing to shell out more moolah for the marketing (which they will gladly obliged now due to the huge success of The Dark Knight).</p>
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		<title>By: anonymess</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit I mean The Dark Knight Returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit I mean The Dark Knight Returns.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymess</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chungyen Chang

Having Batman being hunted by the police and hated by the public is crucial to the plot of The Dark Knight returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chungyen Chang</p>
<p>Having Batman being hunted by the police and hated by the public is crucial to the plot of The Dark Knight returns.</p>
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		<title>By: Chungyen Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chungyen Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey, we have to protect Harvey’s reputation as a white knight, but he’s gone and killed 5 people. How do we make those go away?”

“Well, I could say I did it. I mean, I was halfway across town when they happened, and people saw me running around saving hostages when those people were dying, but we can make it work. I’ll valiantly sacrifice myself for this city.”

“….yeeeeah, I was kinda thinking of blaming the Joker. Y’know, or his henchmen.”

“Oh.&quot;

-anonymous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey, we have to protect Harvey’s reputation as a white knight, but he’s gone and killed 5 people. How do we make those go away?”</p>
<p>“Well, I could say I did it. I mean, I was halfway across town when they happened, and people saw me running around saving hostages when those people were dying, but we can make it work. I’ll valiantly sacrifice myself for this city.”</p>
<p>“….yeeeeah, I was kinda thinking of blaming the Joker. Y’know, or his henchmen.”</p>
<p>“Oh.&#8221;</p>
<p>-anonymous</p>
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